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A fundraiser for bridgends newly formed rollerderby team.

Music from LIVESTOCK DAVIES AND THE LOWDOWN SNAKES, a special one off set from the recently split A NEW DAY so be sure not to miss out if you missed their farewell show!

Check the facebook event for regular updates!

Little late getting this poster out cos I had a mission getting a Rockabilly band but here it is...

[King Brosef]

I have to be honest, I find these fundraising gigs for a bunch of girls to go roller skating somewhat offensive. If you're going to raise money, do it for a charity of some kind. I don't ask people for money when I want to go skateboarding because it's a hobby - and a hobby is something you should pay for yourself. Everyone knows Roller Derby is just the new Burlesque anyway; yet another movie inspired fad for a bunch of Welsh goth girls who think they're Kat Von D.

[nicky]

Nothing to do with the rollerderby, but I thought A New Day split a few months back?

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King Brosef, on 15 July 2010 - 08:10 AM, said:

I have to be honest, I find these fundraising gigs for a bunch of girls to go roller skating somewhat offensive. If you're going to raise money, do it for a charity of some kind. I don't ask people for money when I want to go skateboarding because it's a hobby - and a hobby is something you should pay for yourself. Everyone knows Roller Derby is just the new Burlesque anyway; yet another movie inspired fad for a bunch of Welsh goth girls who think they're Kat Von D.

I'm sure everyone here appreciates your honesty mate. The team is made up of a pretty broad range of characters, not one of them lapping the hall in feather boas and nipple tassles to the best of my knowledge!

Skateboarding is an individual past-time whereas this is a team sport which requires that the girls have a certain standard of equipment, a uniform appearance for competition and to meet routinely at a practice place.

More mainstream sports such as rugby and football quite often have funding immediately available from their local authorities and also recieve sponsorship from local businesses to cover the costs of strips and green fees etc... pretty sure they have the occasional fundraiser too you just mightn't see it in the gigs section of SWM.

As for more suitable causes, the girls were hoping that this fundraiser might help get them kitted out in time for the goodwood roller marathon which raises money for the NSPCC http://www.goodwoodmarathon.co.uk/

Regarding A New Day Nicky, yeah they had a farewell show just recently but one of the girls knows them well and managed to encourage them to play. I'm not entirely sure if it'll be A New Day or if it's new stuff that Dan and Josh have been working on. In either case they're a decent band so it's good to have them on the bill.

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Livestock Davies and the Lowdown Snakes
My linkhttp://www.myspace.com/livestock.davies

A New Day
http://www.myspace.com/anewdayuk

Nothing New
http://www.myspace.com/nothingnewuk

BBQ and raffle drawn before the headliners!

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Amplitude promotions, on 15 July 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

I'm sure everyone here appreciates your honesty mate. The team is made up of a pretty broad range of characters, not one of them lapping the hall in feather boas and nipple tassles to the best of my knowledge!

Skateboarding is an individual past-time whereas this is a team sport which requires that the girls have a certain standard of equipment, a uniform appearance for competition and to meet routinely at a practice place.

More mainstream sports such as rugby and football quite often have funding immediately available from their local authorities and also recieve sponsorship from local businesses to cover the costs of strips and green fees etc... pretty sure they have the occasional fundraiser too you just mightn't see it in the gigs section of SWM.

As for more suitable causes, the girls were hoping that this fundraiser might help get them kitted out in time for the goodwood roller marathon which raises money for the NSPCC http://www.goodwoodmarathon.co.uk/

Regarding A New Day Nicky, yeah they had a farewell show just recently but one of the girls knows them well and managed to encourage them to play. I'm not entirely sure if it'll be A New Day or if it's new stuff that Dan and Josh have been working on. In either case they're a decent band so it's good to have them on the bill.

Shit! What a comeback, noyce!

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Amplitude promotions, on 14 July 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:

A fundraiser for bridgends newly formed rollerderby team.

Music from LIVESTOCK DAVIES AND THE LOWDOWN SNAKES, a special one off set from the recently split A NEW DAY so be sure not to miss out if you missed their farewell show!

Check the facebook event for regular updates!

Little late getting this poster out cos I had a mission getting a Rockabilly band but here it is...

I thought Nothing New were playing this?

[hail of bullets]

Amplitude promotions, on 15 July 2010 - 10:32 AM, said:

I'm sure everyone here appreciates your honesty mate. The team is made up of a pretty broad range of characters, not one of them lapping the hall in feather boas and nipple tassles to the best of my knowledge!

Skateboarding is an individual past-time whereas this is a team sport which requires that the girls have a certain standard of equipment, a uniform appearance for competition and to meet routinely at a practice place.

More mainstream sports such as rugby and football quite often have funding immediately available from their local authorities and also recieve sponsorship from local businesses to cover the costs of strips and green fees etc... pretty sure they have the occasional fundraiser too you just mightn't see it in the gigs section of SWM.

While that may seem like a crushing shutdown of a comeback to someone not willing to take the half a second to think about it, it doesn't wash with me.

Roller skates, helmet, knee/elbow pads. If there are any more overheads than that per person to be on a Roller Derby team, I can't think of them. I guarantee you could pick them up for less than a new pair of decent football boots and shin pads.
I wanted to play Ice Hockey when I was younger but couldn't because my mum couldn't afford to kit me out in the gear. She didn't think to go round on a fund raising mission to enable me to play out a movie-inspired fad (that movie franchise was of course the excellent Mighty Ducks), she just said "Them's the breaks kid. You're sticking with football." So why should it be any different for these girls?

Uniforms? When we needed some for our 7-a-side team a few years ago, we all chipped in. It was about £15 each. You can't possibly expect anyone to believe that some skimpy little shorts and a skimpy little top could cost more than that? Get down fucking H&M, pick up some matching shorts for £3 a pair, matching skimpy tops for £3 a pop, and spray paint some stenciled logo on it.

"To meet routinely at a practice place"? Seriously? You need to subsidise people MEETING now?

I have never once heard of a local authority covering the cost of equipment for football/rugby players. Maybe Fantasy Island Borough Council do, but not here in the real world, because here, people are expected to pay for their own hobbies. I assume it's also that same Borough Council that cover green fees? Could you draw me a map? I'm loving golf right now, but would enjoy it even more if it were government funded.

If you can't afford to buy the gear and pay the subs to practice and play, maybe you should take up a cheaper sport.

[Luke ()ram]

hail of bullets, on 21 July 2010 - 05:27 PM, said:

While that may seem like a crushing shutdown of a comeback to someone not willing to take the half a second to think about it, it doesn't wash with me.

Roller skates, helmet, knee/elbow pads. If there are any more overheads than that per person to be on a Roller Derby team, I can't think of them. I guarantee you could pick them up for less than a new pair of decent football boots and shin pads.
I wanted to play Ice Hockey when I was younger but couldn't because my mum couldn't afford to kit me out in the gear. She didn't think to go round on a fund raising mission to enable me to play out a movie-inspired fad (that movie franchise was of course the excellent Mighty Ducks), she just said "Them's the breaks kid. You're sticking with football." So why should it be any different for these girls?

Uniforms? When we needed some for our 7-a-side team a few years ago, we all chipped in. It was about £15 each. You can't possibly expect anyone to believe that some skimpy little shorts and a skimpy little top could cost more than that? Get down fucking H&M, pick up some matching shorts for £3 a pair, matching skimpy tops for £3 a pop, and spray paint some stenciled logo on it.

"To meet routinely at a practice place"? Seriously? You need to subsidise people MEETING now?

I have never once heard of a local authority covering the cost of equipment for football/rugby players. Maybe Fantasy Island Borough Council do, but not here in the real world, because here, people are expected to pay for their own hobbies. I assume it's also that same Borough Council that cover green fees? Could you draw me a map? I'm loving golf right now, but would enjoy it even more if it were government funded.

If you can't afford to buy the gear and pay the subs to practice and play, maybe you should take up a cheaper sport.

.....and that's why them call him MR Hail of Bullets. ZING

This post has been edited by Luke ()ram: 21 July 2010 - 04:55 PM

[sam]

I got shit for trying to fundraise for the mens bogs to have a new floor so that the people that post here didnt fall through to the alley and got shot down with a barrage of abuse. This was always going to go down badly.

I am kinda split on this one as if people are willing to get off their arses and put a gig on then why shouldnt they use the money for rollerderby or whatever they want? But at the same time my daughter wants to take up horse riding and I am not putting on gigs and calling them fundraisers to buy her a horse, she just ain't having one.

Maybe calling it a fundraiser was a bad call, just put on good gigs, get people in and buy whatever you want with the money.

[Joe G]

Livestock Davies is a good fun band, whether or not the gig is a fundraiser or not.

Roller Derby is really popular amongst some of the girls who come to our gigs, we're doing the after party for the Glasgow Vs Edinburgh one in a few weeks so that'll be my first experience of what it's all about etc. I'll keep yous informed

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Well they're all huge fans of his work here at SWM so I'm sure the girls will be gutted "shower of doghshit" doesn't won't be at the show!

AVAILABLE FUNDING

For our good friends here who seem to have a major grievance with the whole thing, as far as football and rugby teams not receiving support from the local authorities or the government, you really need look no further than http://www.welshfootballtrust.org.uk/ or http://www.footballf...n.org.uk/apply/..... here's an example of a bridgend football team benefiting from such a fund for coaching http://www.sports-co...g.uk/24304.html.

Here's some rugby-specific funding http://www.wru.co.uk/23407.php,

Please take the time to check them all, the last one, reports of welsh rugby clubs being elligible for upto £20,000 worth of funding.

Do a similar search for funding for roller-derby in the uk and report back would you, I'd be keen to see how you get on.

I'd also suggest you find out who paid for your local amateur football/rugby field to be be built. It's upkeep may now be paid for by green fee's, often contributed by a local pub which the team all drink at following matches. Exactly the sort of interest and sponsorship the girls are hoping to attract by holding this fundraiser.

As a sport in it's infancy in the UK it's simply not possible to enlist the help of Dai bad-back from up the road who once tried out for wales to offer a hand at training sessions. Experienced bouters and trainers can charge a fair whack and in my opinion, reserve the right to!


FUNDRAISER????

Lets face it gigs, by and large DON'T make money for anyone involved so you could consider this an awareness raising venture as much as anything else.

Sam, your post was fairly neutral so this really isn't an attack but if you ever put on a gig and managed to raise enough money from it that your daughter could trample me down on her GeeGee I'd spit-shine your shoes for you to teach me your secret and frankly magical powers of gig profiteering!

If you ain't interested in the gig don't come. If you are, like Joe says, there's some fun bands and it's all for what I consider a worthy cause.

Peace out!

[hail of bullets]

Of course the government contributes to FACILITIES for sports played by hundreds of thousands of people UK wide. It doesn't and will never pay for individual start up costs for all those hundreds of thousands of people which is what this gig is raising money for. If you can't see the difference between the two things, then there's little point talking to you about it.
And if you really struggle to understand why the government doesn't build hundreds of roller derby arena's all over the UK, then frankly, you're a moron.

[Ben]

To be honest, anything that gets fat girls to do exercise that isn't burlesque has got to be a good thing.

[Dexter Green]

I think most people on this site are fans of the superior Tiger Bay Brawlers anyway.

[Grandad Falls]

Not me.

Dragon Dolls all the way.

[Cardiff Gentleman]

Just looked up the Tiger Bay Brawlers and the thing that pops out in their site is the benefit gig http://tigerbaybrawlers.com/

[Cardiff Gentleman]

Grandad Falls, on 22 July 2010 - 02:14 PM, said:

Not me.

Dragon Dolls all the way.

None of them look remotely rockabilly,goth or burlesque - I feel cheated.

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hail of bullets, on 22 July 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:

It doesn't and will never pay for individual start up costs

http://www.sports-co...es.org.uk/10140
....thats a development grant for establishing a new team. Roller-derby as yet isn't on their list of approved activities that can recieve funding, hopefully that'll change and storm of piss can find something else to whinge about.

This is not about individual start up costs. This is about being able to provide kit for the team, not the individuals. Skaters are required to wear skates, pads and helmets. A beginner can't be expected to buy all this kit for something they mightn't even be interested in following their first session. You can rock up at footy practice in a pair of trainers, you might be ill-equipped but you'll know after that session and be able to decide whether to stick at it and buy the gear after that.

The money also goes towards, training referees and coaches something theres not really an abundance of in the uk.

I'm not struggling to understand why there aren't roller derby arenas across the uk and never suggested as much. It's a new sport and it simply requires that the girls use a makeshift, rather than purpose built training space. This incurs room hire. I'm not feeling hard-done by that football pitches are easily accessible either, it's great!

[hail of bullets]

Amplitude promotions, on 22 July 2010 - 02:30 PM, said:

This is not about individual start up costs. This is about being able to provide kit for the team, not the individuals. Skaters are required to wear skates, pads and helmets. A beginner can't be expected to buy all this kit for something they mightn't even be interested in following their first session.

I really don't see why not. As I mentioned and you ignored, it wouldn't be at all expensive.

The lack of facilities aren't down to Roller Derby being a new sport (it's the best part of a century old), it's because no one cared until Drew Barrymore decided to dip her toes in directing.

Until you find a link of public sector money buying boots and shin pads/body armor for football and rugby players, you're not disproving anything I've said.

Obviously this gig isn't diverting money from a worthier cause in any real terms. If there hadn't been a gig at all then the money would have stayed in the pockets of the punters rather than going to MSF or any decent charity. It's the idea of putting in the effort of raising money and then wasting it on a fad that these girls should be funding themselves that I, and clearly others take umbrage with.